• Phunter@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    A lot of people don’t understand that you can be critical of a political candidate while still supporting them.

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        I think that “rational” is the key word. People online can’t seem to have rational discussions.

        Criticism of Biden quickly turns into a toxic hate fest, with rabid disagreements. How the heck are we supposed to see this as “ critical of a political candidate while still supporting them.”?

        Meanwhile I try to say I like a lot of what he’s done, except for x, y, z, and get mobbed by a bunch of thugs with pipes and broken bottles. How can I take this as we’re saying the same thing?

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      in this case not of a specific candidate, but of the system itself that always fails to prevent fascists from gaining ground and always fails to present options that anyone but fascists like.

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    “We’re all going to come back together to beat Donald Trump”

    I hope that’s true.

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      Same here, and the trouble is that even if we do, we have to keep a Republican out of the White House for the foreseeable future or democracy in done.

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        Abolishing the Electoral College so all the votes go to people instead of corn would be a good start.

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          It would pretty much solve the problem. The EC should have been abolished once technology made it unnecessary.

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        Hopefully they’ll calm the fuck down once Trump eventually keels over. I kinda doubt it, but hopefully.

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          I’m hoping they fracture when he does, since he has so many cultists that worship him. The GOP has really benefited from the “hateful bigots who don’t usually bother voting” demographic he pulls in.

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    4 months ago

    Complacency is how we got Trump the first time. Don’t just assume it will be fine - talk to your friends,talk to your family. Show them Project 2025.

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    It’s not fine. What’s happening is ruinous to the state and the legitimacy of the office. It only further highlights the terrible flaws in the system and reinforces the knowledge that those in power want it this way for disgusting selfish reasons.

    Still vote for Biden because this election is foregone. But this is not fine and it should motivate people to work in local politics to create a true grassroots movement that will shut these systems down.

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    We will beat Trump except that time in 2016 when we didn’t and the stacked courts have made things worse since them.

    Optimism is great and all, and we can still delay the country turning into a dictatorship for a little while longer, but let’s not pretend this is fine.

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    If you need to hold your nose for it just replace the mental image of Biden with a generic suit around a mannequin wearing a “I’m not Donald Trump” hat.

    All other goals for results aside, what we need most to rally behind is to protect this country from a second Trump Presidency.

    Biden could drop dead day after the election and as long as that fresh corpse still won the EC I’ll be just as relieved.

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    Oh you poor optimistic idiot. Do yourself a favor and go back in the burning house. It’ll be a quicker, less painful death than the downfall of America.

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      Why are you taunting people about something that likely affects their lives in very negative ways and that they had almost no say in? Seems kinda cruel.

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          Children were and are being murdered in other countries before Gaza. To say that someone’s problems don’t matter because somewhere else it’s worse is the most idiotic childish garbage you could possibly peddle.

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          And? What does that have to do with this OP and comment? Like, seriously, is it just “I don’t care about how much a lot of Americans are scared and tired of their political system because children in Gaza are dying”, which very few Americans have a direct hand in because of the same system you’re celebrating? I’m just confused at the attempted logic here.