Just putting this up to contrast with this post and because Eli Valley is a great political cartoonist.

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        Just a reminder: voting for the lesser of two evils has not ever resulted in the Democratic party stopping their march to the extreme right right alongside the GOP, to the point now that in order to vote for the Democratic nominee one must accept that their vote goes to supporting a genocide.

        “Their march to the extreme far right”

        Tell me you don’t know history, or remember even 10 years ago, without telling me you don’t know history or remember 10 years ago.

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            Please compare the Democratic Party in 2024 to the following periods of the Democratic Party:

            2012

            2004

            1992

            1980

            1968

            1960

            1952

            Then, subsequently, trace their ‘march to the extreme far right’.

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              Yes there was a massive Lurch right in the 90s. Since then the Democrats have waffled extremely hard. Flirting with moving back left slightly but often retracting back to their '90s positions. But there have been a few solid moves to the left in the last 20 years. Nowhere near enough of course. But some is always better than none.

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                Well, I don’t support either one of them but it’s very clear that Trump is the worse of the two options in the two party system. I did not choose him. I really think it’s moronic for randos on the internet to try to tell me what I support. It’s not a moral issue for me, it’s a logical one.

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                    Again, voting for Biden is not supporting him. I’ll acknowledge that he is one of two shitty options, but my brain works well enough to recognize that in a two party system, we’re not going to have more than two options. That’s just math.

                    My memory works well enough to remember the Trump regime and its lasting impacts on our country. Not voting for Biden is an endorsement for further rollbacks to bodily autonomy, a greater division in wealth, the privatization of public services, religious indoctrination in schools, AND the continued genocide of Palestinians.

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            A person who doesn’t vote is more to blame than a person who votes for the less insane candidate. That’s logic 101.

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            That’s why I only ever write in my own name. It’s the only way to be sure my vote perfectly aligns with my morals.

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      Don’t worry, that’s what the fascist simps want. But they’re totally Leftists, don’t worry; enabling fascism is just good praxis. /s

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          Yes, you’re right. When given a binary choice it’s always worse to choose the side that will bring more fascism. I’m glad you recognized that at one point. Hopefully you can come back around to it.

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              Out of the three choices available to me it’s brought the least fascism one can muster through the voting process. Not voting is a way to bring about marginally more fascism (I especially hope you are voting locally right?) There are 3 years and 364 other days to do political action. Please use those. I don’t see voting as anything but an awful way to choose the lesser of two evils and as a miniscule but necessary part of mine and your capacity for political action.

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                  I wholeheartedly encourage you to spend your time advocating for socialism and trying to revive the movement, hell, I’ve spent time canvasing for local socialist candidates. You know what that didn’t stop me from doing? Spending 20 minutes walking to my polling place once every 4 years to vote for the least fascist out of 2 shitty candidates.

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              I love when PEOPLE on lemmy act like THEY tried to warn everyone so THEY’RE not responsible. How many election cycles have you participated in? You haven’t done shit and will continue not doing shit, congratulations.

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          And they have just as hypocritically told you similar things. And neither of you have learned you’re both horrible.