• joneskind@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    lol

    What does Skyrim, a first person realtime 3D game has to do with Baldur’s Gate games? Absolutely nothing.

    So what’s the point of even bringing it in the conversation, if by your own words I am not allowed to bring different type of games?

    Stop making U-turns every time I tell you things you don’t want to hear.

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      1 year ago

      Skyrim is a triple A RPG. I haven’t made one change to my argument. My argument is not even my argument. It’s the “Standing on the shoulders of giants” metaphor. If you like what you see today, then you have to give credit to the works that impacted the current environment.

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        1 year ago

        I won’t because it’s BS

        BG3 has nothing to do with Skyrim. The gameplay has nothing to do with it. The story has nothing to do with it either. BG3 exists because of BG1 and BG2. You would know that if you’ve ever played one of those game. But you didn’t because you are to young to know shit. As a matter of fact, every Larian’s game exists because of Baldur’s gate. The world didn’t begin the day you grab your first controller you know?

        Now, if we stop talking about gameplay and talk about money like you did, BG3 never had to wait for Skyrim to be a success, as there were tremendously successful games before Skyrim already.

        Keep repeating yourself if you like, it won’t change how wrong you are.

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          1 year ago

          Why is BG3 not BioWare if it evolved on its own merits? You don’t even have a point you’re trying to make. You just want to tell me that I’m wrong. In order for me to be wrong, one of the most influential games ever would have to have zero influence on the development, funding, or reception of Baldur’s Gate 3. You don’t have any argument because I literally can’t be wrong about it.

          • If Larian tried to make a game that wasn’t Skyrim, it’s still a positive impact that Skyrim had.
          • If Larian wanted to make one of the best RPGs, then they’d have to make it better than Skyrim. Net impact, good.
          • If Larian wanted to make a business case for why they deserved $100M to develop, then they pointed to the success that Skyrim had as validation.

          If you think that no one in the 6 years of development compared the game to Skyrim in any way whatsoever or any game inspired by Skyrim, then you have an opinion so dumb that it’s not worth talking to you.

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            1 year ago

            Skyrim is not the most influential game ever… you’re timeline is broken by your own ignorance.

            I don’t have « a point to make » for someone who’s just spitting nonsense.

            You keep repeating the same BS.

            I gave you facts you keep ignoring.

            • Skyrim’s and Baldur’s Gate gameplay are nothing alike.
            • Skyrim wasn’t the first nor the most successful game ever.

            I gave you historical references that you keep ignoring too.

            Not arguments. Facts.

            Now live in a fantasy if you want. Why should I care?

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              1 year ago

              You admitted that you don’t have a point. Lol. I’m going to go play a rogue/fighter/wizard and fight dragons and have my choices impact the outcome and be a dragonborn and have mods.

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                  1 year ago

                  Those are things in both games, numb nuts.

                  Or what about the mother figure in the dark cult of assassins?

                  Night Mother from Skyrim

                  Orin's Mother from BG3

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                    1 year ago

                    Do you really think Skyrim invented the trope of the Mother figure?

                    Are you that much illiterate?

                    For fuck sake, open a damn book.