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    Many of these girls are brought up to believe it is wrong to not cover your body as a girl and woman. How is that freedom?

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        When they got addicted it may very much give them freedom.

        These veils are not chosen by girls out of freedom. No 10 year old girl suddenly stands up and thinks “Better to cover my body, otherwise I may tempt the men around me”.

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          It does not matter if a vice is chosen or unchosen. Smoking is a great example. You may not choose a tobacco addiction.

          Situation A: you have the freedom to choose to quit or not. Quitting results in more freedom. Not quitting results in less. The total freedoms available to you at any time are the freedom TO quit and the freedom OF quitting

          Situation B: You have no freedom to choose to quit. Your total freedoms are: freedom from quitting.

          So your freedoms have decreased in situation B. We have to ask if personal freedoms are preferable to better outcomes.

          The difference is that freedom is independent of opinion. You are either free to do so lawfully or not. But if I say “it would be better for you to not have that freedom”, I need to demonstrate what “better” means. And there everyone often disagrees.

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            If you really want to take smoking as an analogy the situation would be like this: Your parents forced you into a tabacco addiction. You are growing up being told that you can’t go anywhere without smoking and those around you who do not smoke are doing a bad thing.

            Is it good or bad if these children have a place where their parents have no power to force them to smoke?

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                It’s a good thing that the child would be forced not to smoke. Because a 10 year old would gladly tell you she smokes of her own free will if you simply ask.

                A rule like “no smoking in schools” doesn’t harm you, unless your parents already made you think there will be terrible consequences if you stop doing so. Better to learn that it’s made up bs, before the harm is done.