The proportion of people conceived by ivf and asexual through their lives, with no romantic interests ever, and no other connections to sex has got to be vanishingly small … more power to you if you are, but you can’t claim that’s the mainstream experience
My comment about IVF was tongue and cheek as the person i replied to was being pendatic. Im aware most people are conceived via sex. But thats not really whats the point or the emotions that is being depicted in movies now is it?
It’s really a tangent lol, but I just found it absurd that someone was suggesting sexuality is not apart of their lives, now I’m reading articles this morning about experiences of asexual folks and studies etc.
Feeling low desire or feeling asexual is not necessarily a disorder, I think that’s why the distinction was made. In the past low sexual desire was treated as a symptom for a larger disease or issue.
But this does not mean that sexuality is not a part of an asexual persons life. I’m just interested in the topic but I’m sticking by my point that sexuality is integral to the human experience whether you participate in sex itself or not.
Sexuality may be a big part for some people’s lifes. But for others, it has virtually no part. Breathing is an intergal part of being alive, but you’ll spend 99.9% of you life never thinking about it. Sure its there, its a thing… but unless you actively think about it, it doesnt actually effect who you are.
But it does. I think I understand what you are saying. But you can’t just ignore all of human evolution that brought made us all who we are.
If you are a monk who has committed to celibacy and given up money, who only eats what people put into your begging bowl, money and sexuality are still apart of your life. I’m arguing that it is impossible to separate our sexuality from our existence.
This is not to negate someone’s lived experience at all in any way. Whether we want it to or not money and sexuality are an integral part of our lives.
Maybe if we live in a cave and never interact with any other human beings, idk.
But in the sense of a person who is an asexual or a monk who does not spend money, I see your point of view but it still is an important part of our lives, and their lives, if only because it affects so many our friends and family around us and in our lives, how we interact with others in the world.
Again, this is a huge tangent from the original post as you pointed out, it’s just interesting to me. I hope you’re having an awesome day 😊
If you are a monk who has committed to celibacy and given up money, who only eats what people put into your begging bowl, money and sexuality are still apart of your life. I’m arguing that it is impossible to separate our sexuality from our existence.
Celibacy is a choice. they must acknowledge their desires and then reject it. What im saying is theres nothing to reject because it never comes to mind.
I think there is a misunderstanding. Im saying some people have a disconnect with others. Yes, you cant go far in the world without sexual things plastered everywhere… but theres people that dont really understand why that is.
A little anecdote story… a few months ago, I was messing around with AI art, and I genned some “waifu” art that wasnt even very lewd. I shared it with some friends and their response was “aw shes cute, I would totally go on a date with her”, and I felt a bit happy that I could relate with them. but then, they made the additional comment “and afterward, take her back to my place and have fun ;)”. it really caught me off guard and thought to myself “wait what? oh… I forgot people do that…”. Now if the art was indeed lewd, it wouldnt suprised me as I understand the context well enough to make assumptions…
im not really sure my example helps you to understand. it’s difficult to really explain honestly.
perhaps if you exclude IVF babies.
The proportion of people conceived by ivf and asexual through their lives, with no romantic interests ever, and no other connections to sex has got to be vanishingly small … more power to you if you are, but you can’t claim that’s the mainstream experience
And most likely you would still have a menstrual cycle or a raging erection every morning.
Sexuality is pretty integral to the human experience, even if you are asexual. It’s unavoidable.
In IVF specifically the man generally has to jerk off to make the sperm donation.
My comment about IVF was tongue and cheek as the person i replied to was being pendatic. Im aware most people are conceived via sex. But thats not really whats the point or the emotions that is being depicted in movies now is it?
It’s really a tangent lol, but I just found it absurd that someone was suggesting sexuality is not apart of their lives, now I’m reading articles this morning about experiences of asexual folks and studies etc.
Feeling low desire or feeling asexual is not necessarily a disorder, I think that’s why the distinction was made. In the past low sexual desire was treated as a symptom for a larger disease or issue.
But this does not mean that sexuality is not a part of an asexual persons life. I’m just interested in the topic but I’m sticking by my point that sexuality is integral to the human experience whether you participate in sex itself or not.
Sexuality may be a big part for some people’s lifes. But for others, it has virtually no part. Breathing is an intergal part of being alive, but you’ll spend 99.9% of you life never thinking about it. Sure its there, its a thing… but unless you actively think about it, it doesnt actually effect who you are.
But it does. I think I understand what you are saying. But you can’t just ignore all of human evolution that brought made us all who we are.
If you are a monk who has committed to celibacy and given up money, who only eats what people put into your begging bowl, money and sexuality are still apart of your life. I’m arguing that it is impossible to separate our sexuality from our existence.
This is not to negate someone’s lived experience at all in any way. Whether we want it to or not money and sexuality are an integral part of our lives.
Maybe if we live in a cave and never interact with any other human beings, idk.
But in the sense of a person who is an asexual or a monk who does not spend money, I see your point of view but it still is an important part of our lives, and their lives, if only because it affects so many our friends and family around us and in our lives, how we interact with others in the world.
Again, this is a huge tangent from the original post as you pointed out, it’s just interesting to me. I hope you’re having an awesome day 😊
Celibacy is a choice. they must acknowledge their desires and then reject it. What im saying is theres nothing to reject because it never comes to mind.
No one lives outside of community though, no?
I added / edited to my post above fyi
I think there is a misunderstanding. Im saying some people have a disconnect with others. Yes, you cant go far in the world without sexual things plastered everywhere… but theres people that dont really understand why that is.
A little anecdote story… a few months ago, I was messing around with AI art, and I genned some “waifu” art that wasnt even very lewd. I shared it with some friends and their response was “aw shes cute, I would totally go on a date with her”, and I felt a bit happy that I could relate with them. but then, they made the additional comment “and afterward, take her back to my place and have fun ;)”. it really caught me off guard and thought to myself “wait what? oh… I forgot people do that…”. Now if the art was indeed lewd, it wouldnt suprised me as I understand the context well enough to make assumptions…
im not really sure my example helps you to understand. it’s difficult to really explain honestly.
Sexual frustration is a massive part of peoples lives too. Only asexual people escape the influence of sex.