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I’ve singlehandedly caused hp to lose thousands of dollars. People trust my advice and I’ve lost all trust in hp so I tell people not to waste their money on it.
When I got hired to take charge of the IT department, the first thing I did was phase out ALL HP products and then implemented an “Unacceptable and Barred Brands for purchasing” policy with HP right at top.
Thank you for your service
Unfathomably Based
Anyone have recommendations for MICR compatible printers that AREN’T HP? It’s the last HP product we have in my office.
Don’t buy a smart printer. Buy a dumb printer, then plug it into a raspberry pi.
Who sells dumb printers though? I would buy that in a heartbeat.
I’m pretty sure you can still get brother, Canon, and Epson ones
Canon bricks their printers, only replaces full cartridges and is super touchy about hooking up to the internet.
Canon is 100% as evil as HP
I love their cameras, but yeah, their printers are evil.
I’m going to be in the market for a camera soon, and I’ll never touch a Canon because of their printers. If they want good brand recognition they have to earn it and they have not for me
The only Canon printer I ever owned was a piece of garbage. For whatever reason, I couldn’t just select my home wifi from a list like literally any other network-enabled device. I instead had to select an option buried several layers deep in the menus to have it try to automatically connect to an open network. Only after waiting 5 minutes for this to fail would it show a list of available networks.
Of course, it also forgot the network and password settings every time it lost power, so I had to go through the whole process again after time I unplugged the thing to clean behind the shelf.
I’ve never had much luck with the consumer level canon printers, absolute pieces of shit. I used to sell printers and would steer people towards brother or Epson. However last I saw, canon did still have printers that could be used entirely offline.
Brother sells some
Brother is the only printer company I like. I’ve had a workhorse for ages and it is still going strong.
I’ve been using them for 20ish years and never had any more trouble than routine maintenance.
Estate sales, yard sales, and tech scrappers/recyclers tend to have em as well.
I have had one printer bricked and my dad had 2 bricked by hooking up to the internet. I didn’t realize that was what was happening until it was too late.
we need an easily flashed prerolled Printer OS that makes this easy to make work
What’s a smart printer?
A printer that supports network print, typically through an Internet service.
I’d say network printers are fine, but ones that require a ‘cloud’ connection can gag on my dong. I have a brother business aio printer hooked up via network and it’s been everything I wanted from it, after our Epson shit the bed a couple years ago.
The ones you plug to your intranet with an Ethernet cable, and which talk the common lpr protocol. Those are really good. E.g. the Brother laser printers.
I haven’t bought a printer recently. Wtf is a smart printer?
It’s a printer that, when you tell it to print, tries its best to find a reason to refuse to do so.
Most newer models that automatically make themselves available to all the devices connected to the network they are connected to, and manage the printer queue internally. Usually comes with a ton of shitty “features” e.g preventing you from printing black & white when you’re out of yellow ink.
2-in-one scanner+printer machines are especially heinous with this, most of the ones I’ve used block you from scanning a document if you’re out of any ink (yes, even when you’re only trying to scan and not use the “copy” mode)Somehow they found a way to make me miss having to boot the “printer PC” and wrangling windows’ god awful printer queue system.
Buy brother laser. It’s more expensive, but it’s worth it long term. They last a real long time and the cartridges last bananas and they don’t care about “official” ink
Straight up when I bought my black and white brother laser printer I got an extra cartridge with it because I didn’t expect it to last very long
By the time I finally had to swap it out I couldn’t find the extra cartridge I bought with it because it had been so long
Needless to say I’m 3 years and 500+ pages into the second cartridge and happy to have this clunky little printer
Unfortunately someone snuck someone from HP into Brother’s executive chain. They’re starting the fuckery now too.
I guess the only right thing to do is to buy used Brother laser printers until they all break… Such warhorses.
NGL everytime I move I pack my Brother Laser like fine artwork
Nooooooooooo!
I thought the latest update to the new brother color laser added cartridge DRM?
So far, on my 5 year old brother it annoys me to but toner from them but had a “do not show this message again” choice to click. Happened with two messages and no more so far. They also added a thing in status monitor when it tells you your toner levels wether it’s official or not and that you should not official. So far it hasn’t stopped me from using it, but like every corporation I fully expect them to go full stupid soon.
It’s not even more expensive. You can get a full duplex wifi printer for under $200. I want one, but my 20 year old Brother printer is still going strong.
Laser printers don’t use ink.
Laser printers are especially handy if you rarely ever need to print anything, because they don’t dry up and get clogged.
My Dell mono laser is also going strong. Haven’t had a single issue in over 10 years. Ink printers have been and still are a scam
This is what i own. Amazing printer
They’ll be the first company with their backs against the wall when the revolution comes
I’m pretty sure that’s Nestle
The revolution will not be printed in color.
And this is why things like pirating are not only acceptable but necessary. When companies lock services behind paywalls for products we should legally own, we are left with no recourse but to obtain the services we are owed illegally.
Agreed. Piracy, aka the sharing of information freely (see also: libraries), is a fundamentally ethically correct course of action. Always.
Withholding knowledge for personal profit on the other hand is obviously not.
Why nobody has made an open source ink jet printer design like reprap, I will never understand. The printer industry seems primed for disruption with all their bullshit and their half century old technology.
My guess. They couldn’t get the printer to work. My 3D printer has a lower problem count than my ink jet regular printed at this point.
Because when someone wants a printer, they want a tool, not a hobby.
…and now they get chains.
Hmmm we don’t need to build a new printer, just new firmware. More like ddwrt or tomato
The accuracy required for the ink droplets just isn’t there for prosumers.
I can (and have!) built multiple extruders for a variety of 3D printers. Some of my own design.
Sadly, the tolerances for an inkjet are at least an order of magnitude greater.
I have zero doubt that a few clever hardware hackers could design an open source inkjet printer. But A: They’d get sued back to the mesolithic by every printer company with a patent. And B: the process would likely involve micro machining your own hardware.
I’ve just said, “fuck it” to the entire industry. I’m in my early 40s and I’m reasonably sure that my Brother laser will outlive me. And possibly the heat death of the universe.
Patents expire after, what, 20 years? I’d be happy with an open source printer based on 20 year old technology.
I’d take a tractor fed dot-matrix printer over my current one just so I could play with the paper thingies on the edges.
Right? Why buy a paper printer for less than $100 when you can spend $2000 on a 3D printer + materials and time spent learning and fucking up! Wish I thought of that!
Probably because they wouldn’t be as profitable.
HP could sell like a tenth the printers and still make more money
HP is probably the worst big tech device company. Their products are shit, break quickly, are overpriced and econ students love them.
Spending too much money on bad products is good for the GDP!
can’t buy a good product under capitalism
contradiction in terms
Well you can while they’re building the brand and the business majors aren’t running every department
I bought an HP Envy, one of these convertible laptop thingies, when I didn’t know any better. The hinge broke about a month after the warranty expired. Repair costs (at a local repair shop, but still) were like 200€ because apparently I had to buy a whole new top cover for the damn repair to work
Anyways, I’m gonna buy a Framework laptop next because fuck going through that again
Fuck yeah framework!
econ students love them.
Why?
Consumables make economists happy because of all the repeat sales.
They love printing? I guess that’s what he’s saying
there’s not a single thing radical about wanting these fuckers out of our homes and out of our lives. Kill em all as far as I’m concerned.
I’ve been radicalized against HP for a decade now. I bought an HP printer with the guarantee of a sizeable rebate. Of course, the rebate never showed up and every time I called about it, the customer service person would read their script, “Oh we sent that out just a few days ago should be arriving soon.” Uh huh. Here it is 15 years later, no rebate check and I’m sure they never intended to send one at all. I’m not a fan of HP at all.
I recently had to set up an HP printer that literally would not function without being activated via Internet connection first, but was received with a dead NIC and no way to activate through USB connection so just another piece of plastic for the landfill due to greed 🤷🏻♂️
I have literally filed a BBB complaint in the past for HP over their stupid ink subscription being fucky
From what I’ve heard the BBB is as much a BS organization as HP, companies can pay to have the complaints removed.
They are useless, as anyone who’s ever tried to get redress through them knows. Don’t trust their ratings.
It’s basically a business owner guild, right?
I honestly don’t know enough to say, I’m just repeating what I’ve heard from others many times over the last decade or so.
This should straight up be illegal
No joke, like what the fuck is this? I bought the thing, and you can just disable it ???
That’s the issue, people won’t stop buying these things and then complain - selling a scam calling it a feature should be illegal and all these practices should be called out as much as possible.
What once was a product, now is a service
We charge your debit, so you can serve us
I made the mistake of buying an HP printer. Fortunately I only spent $70 on it.
Then the ink cartridge ran out as I used all the ink up. So instead of buying more ink I purchased a new printer. This time it was a color inkjet from Brother that will last me years on the first ink cartridge.
Funny how it works. Fuck you HP.
HP execs seething every time I use my old ass HP printer that takes refills and doesn’t complain. The ink never dries out either. This thing got no internet access, they can’t disable anything without literally breaking down first my door and then the printer itself. I hope they use sleep over this.
Shoutout to the real OGs doing those refills, they fill them more than new ones and sell them for half the price.Fuck HP. They provided the tech Israel uses to control and surveil Palestinians.
I wonder if that tech is subscription-based too.
Well that explains all the blown up civilians.
Israel better hope they don’t run out of cyan.
Planned obsolescence iceberg when
