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A set of merge requests were opened that would effectively drop X.Org (X11) session support for the GNOME desktop and once that code is removed making it a Wayland-only desktop environment.
Going along with Fedora 40 looking to disable the GNOME X11 session support (and also making KDE Plasma 6 Wayland-only for Fedora), upstream GNOME is evaluating the prospect of disabling and then removing their X11 session support.
Some concerns were raised already how this could impact downstream desktops like Budgie and Pantheon that haven’t yet fully transitioned over to Wayland. In any event we’ll see where the discussions lead but it’s sure looking like 2024 will be the year that GNOME goes Wayland-only.
Time for Nvidia to step up their driver game… shrugs
What’s everyone’s Wayland showstopper?
I’m holding out for better autoclickers/macro recorders before I go to Wayland
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For whatever reason it can’t seem to suspend my thinkpad. Everything crashes and when I open the lid I have to log in again :/
Sounds good!
That’s a hard work to try to be compatible with X11 and Wayland.
I hope that could simplify that.
They could just drop Wayland support if it is too much work.
But wayland is actually getting development and security updates and every single X11 dev moved onto it… that’s like saying we should drop electric cars for gas because there’s more gas stations right now.
It is more like saying we should drop hydrogen cars because they are a fundamentally flawed concept.
We will drop electric cars because hydrogen cars are fundamentally superior.
Hydrogen ist a nightmare to store and transport and 90% of the ways it can be produced for the foreseeable future are very polluting.
That’s just propaganda from BEV companies. They just saying that so people won’t realize that hydrogen solves many of the problems of electric cars.
This is great. X11 needs to die in modern DEs so we can all move to Wayland for good.
Fix the issues with wayland so that we are all able to use it, before forcing us to move for “our good”.
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You are correct in saying that there are still several problems in both Wayland (e.g. lack of drawing tablet support) and mutter (e.g. tearing protocol non yet implemented). But then you proceed to list problems that are Nvidia’s fault.
The first is weird, but it probably depends on Nvidia’s kernel driver.
The second is probably a synchronization issue, so it’s probably due to Nvidia refusing to implement implicit sync, and explicit sync not being yet supported in Linux. But don’t quote me on that.
Vulkan should work. But video acceleration is definitely absent, and is listed by Nvidia itself among current driver limitations. Try this.
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It’s not GNOME’s or wayland’s fault that Nvidia refuses to fix their drivers.
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