The only justification for not doing this is protectionism. Starmer is placing party above country. We can see how damaging the Tories are. I do not want to see their likes again.

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    I disagree, but expect Labour to push for STV eventually. STV still gives Labour and Tories an edge. My preference is to remove that totally with PR.

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        I call BS. Many MPs are parachuted into areas just because it is a safe seat. I currently have a MP who I really think is nothing more than a grifter, and yet I will be forced to vote for her as the alternative is a Tory win.

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          Safe seats and Gerrymandering absolutely do undermine the concept of local MPs and FPTP. But I have written to my local MP a number of times and yes, mostly it’s political stuff that gets a generic response. BUT the one time it was about an unjust parking ticket, she did successfully cancel it. The big bad beast of politics do make a mockery of it, but there are plenty of hardworking MPs who do their job for their constituencies.

          If we only had national MPs, who do you write to about local matters? I’ve never been to a local MP surgery, but if I was in some kind of trouble I might.

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            I have written to mine twice in the 13 years she has been in post. It was not a good experience with both events. She is as local as you can get, she used to live in my street till she moved out of the city. The problem with MPs is there is no accountability. You only have to look at how Dorries took the piss. There would be no loss by having an MP from further afield. Having one from your local area is not a guarantee they will be any better either.

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        I used to agree. But over the years i have seen any value totally troubced by party politics.

        Few local citizens have any real representation willing to listen under fptp today of much in the last 20 or so years.

        STV or others may improove that with multi MPs. But its hard to see we are lossing anything real with the current system.

        Any improovement need different pilitical motive then we have now. MPs think of representation as soldiers in a war. Ready to be sacrificed for the party line. Or there ow. Career. We need politicians who stand for local ideals first. Then party based on those local voters will.

        Sorry late rant got me there

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            Given the comment I replyed to.

            I think lack of local MPs is a legitimate criticism of pure PR.

            I have no idea why you would think it was. I was arguing local representation dose not really exist in FPTP as it is envissanged,

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              I’m arguing that local MPs are worth having, but FPTP is unrepresentative. With MMPR you get the best of both worlds.