Start telling people now, over on reddit. BEFORE they start cracking down. That way, everyone will know, and the growth will happen even more rapidly.
Start telling people now, over on reddit. BEFORE they start cracking down. That way, everyone will know, and the growth will happen even more rapidly.
Feel free to explain why that “will” happen without infinite growth.
I just did. Allow me to repeat it:
If you come in here in about a year’s time, and there haven’t been any new posts in three weeks, you WILL leave the platform, too.
You won’t intend to. You won’t do it out of spite. You’ll just keep checking for new posts, less and less frequently, until you eventually give up.
Growth is THE ONLY WAY to prevent that situation.
THESE ARE FACTS. THEY ARE NOT OPTIONAL.
EDIT: Also, I specifically said that the growth didn’t need to be infinite. But yeah, you go ahead and claim that I said that. Go ahead and just blatantly lie about what I said. Great intellectual honesty, right there.
So your explanation on why it will happen is that it will happen? You understand how nonsensical that is, right? YELLING that it’s a “fact” doesn’t make it so.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS???
IF. YOU. COME. TO. THIS. PLATFORM. AND. THERE. HAVEN’T. BEEN. ANY. POSTS. FOR. WEEKS.
YOU. WILL. LEAVE.
That is a fact. if you deny it, you are simply insane. We do not currently have enough people to avoid a situation where there can suddenly be days/weeks of time with no new posts, and certainly no good ones.
If that happens, the community will die. It’s like I’m saying “if you let go of a bowling ball in Earth’s gravity, it will hit the floor,” and you’re like “BUT PROVE IT! HOW DO YOU KNOOOOOW THAT’LL HAPPEN???”
It’s bloody goddamned obvious. This community is BEYOND TEENY TINY SMALL, right now. This SubLemmy has 1.8 thousand people active per day. That’s 75 per hour. You can fit that many people into a mid-sized bus. IT’S NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE TO GUARANTEE CONTINUED EXISTENCE.
Scream all you want, you’ll never make me incorrect about this.
Yeah, I’m the one screaming. Ok, bud.
Fyi, repeating the same made up scenario isn’t an explanation, nor does it remotely approach “fact”. You keep pulling bs figures like “2-3 years” and “20-100 times more users” with zero elaboration, then freak out when the hollowness of your statements is pointed out. News flash: “facts” have corroborating evidence and backing that can be shown to others. What you have done so far has none of that except your repeated insistence that you are right because you said you are.
You think you’re winning the argument, because you are denying such basic facts that it’s essentially impossible for me to prove them.
If this community had, say, 10,000 people active per day, I would not feel the frustration that I’m feeling. But I just can’t believe you’re truly being intellectually honest.
Please try to be honest with me, and try to give me an explanation for your own belief: without any growth to replace users who leave, do you REALLY believe that 1.8 thousand people per day will not ebb away to 1,500 in six months, 1,100 in a year, 800 a while after that, etc?
You think people here are made of some kind of different stuff than regular people? We’ve lucked into a group of hyper-loyal, saintly humans, who will 100 percent commit to a community forever, regardless of whether it provides them with the experience they expected?
Why should we expect that? Why am I being such an asshole, for simply assuming that we’ve got normal humans, here?
Replacing users who leave isn’t growth though, it’s sustenance. With the current user count there are posts much more frequently than one every 3 weeks, and I don’t see how that would change from lack of growth (not shrinking)
You’re just being obstinate, like several other people in this thread. I’m saying that there aren’t currently enough users to weather any kind of big problem, like an extended server outage, or anything like that.
It’s like if you’re supporting a family of four, and you consistently run all the way out of money, every month, with somewhere between twenty bucks and negative three dollars left in your bank account. And your spouse says to you “hey, we’re in major trouble, here. We need to start growing some savings, or else we’re eventually going to run into medical expenses or repair bills that will completely destroy us.” Annnnd you would apparently respond with something like “SHUT UP, DUMBASS. WE HAVE EXACTLY AS MUCH MONEY AS WE NEED, EVERY MONTH.”
I don’t pretend to know any kind of exact number, in terms of how many average daily users this platform needs, in order to be safe from future erosion. But it’s more than a couple thousand. I think that’s safe to say. Mid-sized Reddit communities have about 40,000 concurrent users, at any given time.
I just don’t think I’m being as unreasonable as you think I’m being, when I say the Fediverse/Lemmy needs to get at least somewhat bigger.