Probably because everyone tried only the shittiest alt-malks, assume they are all bad, and somehow don’t get heartburn and diarrhea and gunky mouth and throat feel from cow milk. I save all my lactose intolerance suffering for cheese and ice cream.
Seriously though it’s the same as people that say only bad things about tofu but have only eaten white American ‘recipes’ that genuinely suck. Meanwhile Asians happily inhaling literal tons of it prepared in actually good meals. Try making bread from scratch without salt (or salty ingredients) and that’s what tofu foods for the white market remind me of.
everyone tried only the shittiest alt-malks
well i dont have 5 euro to dish out on a carton of altmilk every time i want to make an omelette
yall have an excess of money and it shows
More like gurgling stomach pain. That said in most cooking I generally just use cow milk and hope it goes better than drinking it straight. Most of them, even if they claim to be a 1:1 replacement can’t serve the same purpose in a lot of recipes. One time I was doing a midnight pantry raid and made Mac and white cheese with iirc almond milk. It became almost identical to white chocolate melted over noodles.
One thing nobody has commented on - how that article slips in a seemingly positive mention of Nestlé (they own the cafe that uses plant milks). That raised my eyebrows.
Always follow the money. Nobody does journalism for free.
The dairy lobby in the US is huge money. If you ever want to know why we’re making a seemingly stupid decision follow the money, look at the entrenched interests and read some history. We subsidize dairy farmers because we used to subsidize dairy farmers and they spent a bunch of their earnings lobbying for more subsidies.
Oat milk > Almond milk. Almond milk has a weird and bitter taste to it, oat milk doesn’t.
I also like the coconut water with rice drinks, but they hardly classify as milk even tho some brands may claim it’s a milk alternative.
Are there actual studies showing that plant-based alternatives are better for health (for individuals that digest lactose just fine like me) ?
I switched to alt-milks for ecological reason but media keep talking about the negative health effects of «ultra-transformed food», which alt-milk very much sounds like…
also, milk is just bad for most people. some people need the high fat and protein content, but most of us, including children, would be much better off not drinking milk at all.
Low fat milk has existed for decades, plus doesn’t modern research support the idea that carbs are worse than fat? And I don’t understand why protein is bad, unless you are eating only protein.
Milk is actually very good for children, just because it replaces other liquids that are worse and it has calcium and vitamin D.
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/dont-forget-dairy-part-childs-healthy-diet/
It sounds like you just don’t like natural milk.
First of all, I fucking love milk, you do not fucking know me.
Second of all, you really want to get in a battle of links?? https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/dairy-health-food-or-health-risk-2019012515849
Because it tastes like shit. And I don’t even drink milk but you can’t even cook with the substitute shit.
Oatmilk creamer in coffee or chai, however, is delicious. Some brands are better tasting than others.
I don’t believe you have used the correct plant milks for the correct uses.
- Soya Milk: Kinda meh taste for hot and cold beverages. U won’t go wrong with it. However, this ain’t the best product for all uses. U can make tofu tho, which is nice.
- Oat milk: The best choice for cold beverages. Oat milk has a flavor that is just much better than soy milk in my opinion. While u can use it for hot beverages (and it’s delicious there), u need to be kinda careful. The more u heat up oat milk, the thicker it becomes due to the starch present in it. Therefore, never try to boil, or come close to boiling oat milk ever.
- Coconut milk: If u have anything to say about coconut milk, gtfo from here. It’s fatty and can be a substitute for cream. Needless to say, it is absolutely delicious! South Indian curries make use of this. There’s also a drink that I love called “Solkadhi”, which is an Indian drink made using coconut milk. U just can’t talk smack abt it…
- Chickpea milk: Now this is a use case which I don’t know if many people would agree with me out on or no. What I do is, I make chickpea milk to make youghurt out of it (just ferment it using soaking water). Now, in my experience, this yogurt tastes like shit if u consume it alone. HOWEVER, if you use it in curries, gohdddd r u in for the treat of ur lifetime! One, u get a beautiful thick curry and two, u get that amazing acidic flavor. It’s just rlly rlly good! Highly recommend if u guys haven’t tried this out yet.
- Other plant milks: There are a gazillion other plant milks. I just mentioned the ones above that I have personal experience with.
In conclusion, try not to fixate on one plant milk alternative and then attempt to use it for all use cases of dairy milk. Remember, there is no monolithic “dairy milk alternative”. Different plant milks serve different purposes. If used correctly, u’ll get the best culinary experience of ur life!
Or, you know, I could just use milk.
Well sure… The reason why I don’t use dairy milk is because:
- lactose intolerance
- plant based milk is much better for the environment
- DIY plant based milk is cheap af
- Ethical concerns with the animal husbandry industry
Except almonds. Almonds are terrible water wasters, and mostly grown in California where they can least afford the water.
Still more efficient on resource utilization than animal agriculture. If you hate almond milk for that reason, you should want the dairy industry completely abolished.
Shit, you should want all animal agriculture banned.
Based and correct.
Eh, there are plenty of use cases where certain land types aren’t really arable. Ruminants fill that niche easily.
The catch is that like 80% of the land used for livestock currently could also use crops instead.
Fwiw US dairy plans to be carbon neutral by 2050.
The bigger catch is that 70% of all crops we grow go to our livestock.
We wouldn’t need to use those lands if we just ate less meat.
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The bigger catch is that 70% of all crops we grow go to our livestock.
this isn’t true
Livestock accounts for 77% of global farming land, while supplying only 18% of calories and 37% of protein.
I don’t want it gone but I don’t want it subsidized. I’m not planning on being vegan but I’m cutting out a ton of animal protein from my life. I make it a special thing.
I feel like trying to compare a water intensive crop grown in a place known for drought to crops that can be grown in many places where water is far more readily available is being a bit disingenuous. You’re not comparing apples to apples.
Almond is the worst of the nut milks, but it’s STILL way better for the environment than dairy.
Because most plant juice tastes like shit and has the wrong mouth-feel for most things we use cow milk for. Its not rocket surgery.
Because lots of people in your country drink it, like it, and even more eat things made from it. Like cheese.
“Two thirds of people can’t tolerate lactose” is utterly fucking meaningless in this context. Most of those are in Asia. Last I checked, it was countries giving out subsidies, not some nebulous world council.
And nearly all farming gets subsidised, because that reduces reliance on external countries. You’ve seen what capitalism did to housing. You don’t want that to happen to food.
Americans are at 36% lactose intolerant. Which is surprisingly, to me anyways, high.
And should corn and cattle get the bulk of the subsidies? If it’s about food alone, maybe not.
Because the fiction that plant-based products are healthy has been heavily debunked by just how sickly vegans are on average?
by just how sickly vegans are on average?
???
It it doesn’t come from a mammal it ain’t milk.
And if it grows on a vine it ain’t a vegetable. Yet we have tomatoes, and nobody is putting them in fruit salad.
Culinary definition != scientific definition.
i dont really like anything but whole cows milk. skim is just basically water and i would rather drink water than watery milk. but i havent had milk for a long time. i just eat cheese all the time. i will never give up cheese. yummy
