Even if it was free, opening an app to get water is bullshit.
Edit: Let the record show, I was referring to the chilled water.
It clearly says that you can push the button to get water.
It “clearly” says, “USE APP TO ACCESS”, so no, you can’t just push the button. It has to verify your subscription first.
It only requires the app for chilled and filtered. The regular tap water is still available.
@ch00f@lemmy.world said, “Even if it was free…” which implies he’s talking specifically about the paid button on the right and not the free button on the left.
The implication being even if the chilled and filtered water was also free, having to open an app for the button to work would be bullshit.
Meh, he says, “opening an app to get water.” I think there’s some fudging going on here.
Water is available with no app.
Certain processed water is offered with an app.
Both probably give the same exact water at the same temp.
Oh yeah, Steve called the manufacturer about that, and they’re supposed to be sending someone out this month. Maybe next. Our deepest apologies for the inconvenience.
No, the system won’t allow us to discount or refund.
That’s my favourite line, “I’m sorry we can’t do that because of how our system works.”
“But you’re ripping me off and that’s illegal.”
“I’m sorry, the system won’t allow me to refund you.”
“So you’re admitting that your company built a system that rips people off and breaks the law as a matter of policy? You realise that’s worse, right?”
It’s just finger pointing to avoid liability.
“Oh no, that’s not our fault! It’s these guys who did it, so talk to them!”
For the individual phone line worker yes, but as a system it’s an intentional layered diffusion of responsibility. The decision makers employ goons to tell you about their decisions and blame it on the “system” which is actually just a decision made higher up. You can get as angry as you want at the goons, they have no decision making power so the anger is likely to get nowhere. Even if you ask to talk to a manager, in most situations they’re only a middle manager and yet another layer of security for the person who’s actually screwing you.
Or they warm the tap water
If the water is cooled with a low-energy method like a Peltier cooler, the heat has to go somewhere.
You mean Into a different environment right… Right.?
Jokes on you; I torrent my water!
I stream it
A torrent of water, if you will.
I just cry myself a river.
It’s a failed crowdfunding campaign, their last tweet is from 2017
Yeah this a meme. Thankfully common sense, common decency, and the market won out
Reefill.com isn’t even a registered domain. I call horseshit.
You are right, it is not a current valid domain. It was an Indiegogo crowdfunded project though, and I am guessing it failed.
https://pitchbook.com/profiles/company/178262-56#overview
Went under about two years after the crowdfunding. Guess people didn’t want to pay $2 a pop for chilled and filtered tap water.
I feel that the majority of innovation occuring in modern capitalism is confined to two key areas:
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Regulatory capture and market control.
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New ways to mindfuck people into overpaying for goods and services.
The entire country has incentivized its top minds to developing ad tech bullshit. Like literally our astrophysicists are working at Stitch Fix instead of doing astrophysics.
I help setup ad placement TVs for resort style businesses.
Studied theoretical astrophysics and astro xenobiology as a double advanced major…
My boss used to brag he managed to get the astronaut in his team so, I am useful for facts and puzzles.
God I hate my existence.
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If this was downtown or at parks I can kinda see them providing something. Knowing this is likely at a university library or building its just removing access that was already there.
Fuck that. If it’s downtown or at a park the fucking municipality can afford $1.99/mo
We need more public facilities. This privatization bullshit can kick rocks
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=(specific+heat+of+water)*12.8K*(1+gallon+*+water+density)
200kjoules of heat must be removed from a gallon of water to cool from 55F to 32F (out of the ground down to pleasant drinking temperature).
Assuming a COP of 2 for your compressor (conservative), that’s 100kjoules or 1/36 of a kWh.
High price for a kWh of electricity is $0.25 in the US. So for your $2 subscription, you can pay for 8kWh per month or enough to cool 288 gallons of water or roughly 9 gallons per day. More than anybody would rightly use.
What a fucking ripoff.
Not to mention that, in a place like a public park, 55F water is totally fine. It isn’t the coolest most refreshing drink of all time but it’s damn good from a public fountain on a 90F day.
it’s* just removing access
Pay for the PRIVILEGE of not drinking contaminated water!
You think American tap water is contaminated?
Not nesssicarily, but the “filtered” part of the premium water seems to imply that you have to pay to get cleaner water.
I am astounded by the amount of irrational hatred in here towards what is essentially a T-junction pipe…
It’s the fact that they’re charging for something that should be available at no cost.
“Water is, of course, the most important raw material we have today in the world. It’s a question of whether we should privatize the normal water supply for the population. And there are two different opinions on the matter. The one opinion, which I think is extreme, is represented by the NGOs, who bang on about declaring water a public right. That means that as a human being you should have a right to water. That’s an extreme solution. The other view says that water is a foodstuff like any other, and like any other foodstuff it should have a market value. Personally, I believe it’s better to give a foodstuff a value so that we’re all aware it has its price, and then that one should take specific measures for the part of the population that has no access to this water, and there are many different possibilities there.”
Peter Brabeck-Letmathe served as Nestlé’s CEO from 1997 to 2008
What an asshole
Indeed. thank god we have actually made it a human right where I live
Asshole is a Lite term.
No Google Play or App Store?
Oh, I’m so sorry, no fresh water for you.
Those who buy into this shit lose their right to complain that they can’t afford to live.
Is it still a thing? The website doesn’t go anywhere and I can’t find the app. All I can actually find are a few articles talking about how ridiculous it is to have a $2 subscription service on water fountains.
I found this indiegogo link from 7 years ago which gives a little more background. Its not quite as horrible as the picture suggests, I think.
There’s some FAQ and Comments that give some background, like this one:
Rier Esor 7 years ago I’ve been asked by a few people: why do we need reefill water stations when there are water fountains around NYC (if you look hard enough!) and we >all have tap water at home? What’s my best answer?
Patrick Connorton 7 years ago PROJECT OWNER We’re also working with New York City and the Port Authority to map free public bottle filling stations around town – these are usually in or near >parks but, unfortunately, need to be off six months a year to avoid freezing and can be challenging to maintain. Reefill is a natural complement to >these fountains, filling in the gaps in parts of town where it is impractical or cost-prohibitive to install a water fountain.
So it doesn’t sound like these were replacing existing free water fountains, but instead offering free (and paid) water in places never offered before by generating revenue from the paid water to support the installation of any water (including new free water) in places that had none before.
It also looks like the project died in 2019.
Anything that requires an app for payment is something I never use. No exceptions so far.
